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Titania: Thanks for giving your thoughts on the British elections. I think May's downfall is a good sign that the world hasn't gone completely nutters yet. I read an article that said Trump's negative statements on Twitter about London's mayor might have been a factor in the election - reminding people just how crazy a Conservative leader can be.

Now Trump is saying he may not visit the UK after all, saying he doesn't want to worry about protests against him. I guess he also doesn't want to be photographed next to Theresa May after her loss.

Besides, Trump is in so much trouble at home that he probably shouldn't leave the country anyway.

I'm sure he will get into even more trouble this week as the investigations continue. Smile

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Well, of course the so-called president prefers to visit places where he doesn't have to see any protests--you know, like Saudi Arabia...........

His latest (I think it's his latest--it's hard to keep up with the constant stupid) tweet really makes no sense: the one about how Comey's leaks are going to become more "prevalent"--??????? What does that even mean? More of them are going to come out? They'll be more available? Did he mean "relevant"? "Significant"? I can't parse the message.

What we call the beginning is often the end
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Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. (King James Version, Matthew 25: 37-40)
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It doesn't stop.....

No one in the US can criticize North Korea' s culture, at this point, after the video of Trump's fawning Cabinet meeting--I thought that was a satire, at first (except the Orange lacks the capacity for irony). Jesus, God Almighty, but we are in trouble. BIGLY

And the Sessions Session today. See previous.

Seriously: I am bordering on despair, at this point. I've joked with co-workers how this will all consume an entire term in future US History classes. Now, I'm genuinely thinking that there won't be such a class--or the US--after these traitors get finished with what they intend.

What we call the beginning is often the end
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The end is where we start from.
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Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. (King James Version, Matthew 25: 37-40)
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Senator Chuck Schumer (D-NY) ain't having it.




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Thank God for Schumer! I particularly enjoy the African-American woman on the right-hand end who doesn't get to say anything, but who busts a gut laughing and face-plants on the table after the white guy next to her quotes the fawning Cabinet members.

What we call the beginning is often the end
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The end is where we start from.
--T. S. Eliot, "Little Gidding"

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Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. (King James Version, Matthew 25: 37-40)
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"London fire: people trapped as major blaze engulfs tower block – latest"
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/live...timer-road

"What we know so far about the London tower block fire"
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017...block-fire

"London fire: Muslims up early for Ramadan may have saved Grenfell Tower residents' lives"
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/hom...89111.html


"John Major: Tory-DUP deal risks jeopardising Northern Ireland peace"
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/201...land-peace

"May needs to listen to other parties on Brexit, says Cameron"
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/201...ys-cameron

"Road to Brexit is paved with amusement (Danish) and brave faces (British)"
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/201...es-british

"Emmanuel Macron says door to remain in EU is open to Britain"
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/201...-next-week

"Perks will stop if UK ends up staying in EU, says Guy Verhofstadt"
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/201...erhofstadt


"Why Donald Trump can't fire his way out of 'Russia thing' this time"
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017...-this-time

"'Unprecedented violations': states sue Trump for not separating business ties"
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017...s-lawsuits

"Trump Blocked Stephen King On Twitter, So J.K. Rowling Stepped In To Save The Day"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trum...3f2c6e2458

EDIT: (15/06/2017)

Now the cat really is among the pigeons for him... While Comey was still in office, Trump wasn't yet under inquiry. Now he is - by special counsel Robert Mueller (and obviously quite upset about it!).

"Trump-Russia inquiry: President 'probed for obstruction of justice'"
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40283036

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I'm fine, Folks! My home is nowhere near Grenfell Tower and in the case of a house fire, I could safely jump out of the window. Oh, I already had a real house fire here, back in 2010!
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Glad you're ok, Titania! I was watching a live BBC feed last night of the fire. It brought back horrible memories of the World Trade Center, not that this was a terrorist attack, but the sight of those poor people trapped in the upper floors brought that horror back again. It's more than tragic that lives were lost last night. My heart goes out to everyone involved and for the fire brigade. The photos of them on their ladders, silhouetted by raging fire, was sobering. They did report that Muslim kids, up early, did a lot to help when they saw the fire. I hope this gets widely reported.

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What horrific news yesterday.....The video of Grenfell Tower was too much to watch. I hope that a full investigation is done and there is some justice for all of the people who suffered in that inferno.

The mass shooting in San Francisco didn't even merit much coverage: that workplace shooting was too commonplace and overshadowed by the maniac shooting at the GOP Congressmen.

It has struck me how the coverage of the latter has focused exclusively on the idea that "we" need to get back to "civility" in politics.....Absolutely zero discussion of gun control: why should any civilian be allowed to own a military assault rifle? why are violent mentally ill people entitled to buy guns? why can't we have thorough background checks? and, while we're at it, why can't we close the gun show loophole? It's obvious nothing's going to get done on that front: Sandy Hook was the ultimate proof--including that Obama was criticized for being horrified by the crime and that the wing-nut right still insists it was a hoax meant to take all their guns away.

Which did make me wonder if the same people think that the baseball field shooting was also a hoax?

And the endless repetition of the idea that there needs to be a return to "civility".............One Republican politician was wondering today "how we ever got to this point" and what had happened to the good ol'days when Republicans and Democrats would meet and discuss and debate and hang out together........Um, sir: it's called the Tea Party, that wing-nut branch of the Republican party that vowed never to compromise on ANY topic.

And, after all that news, then there's the so-called president. Finally under investigation.

And he has the nerve to yap about the "civility" issue--there's not even a need to point out the hypocrisy.

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Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. (King James Version, Matthew 25: 37-40)
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The shooting in San Francisco also made it into the news here but it was not given a prime spot. Last might I took a bag of some packaged food and drink to the area of Grenfell Tower, all the churches and community centres in the area are looking after the people. They cannot take any more clothes now as people have donated so many! A lot of the people affected are Muslims but people who have helped came from all walks of life and that was widely reported here: it is Ramadan and after nightfall a local mosque they put meals together for everyone. It is sad that so many people are still missing and when I saw this on the news I was also reminded of 911. One woman threw her baby out of the window from the ninth floor yelling at people to catch it. Someone did and the baby is alive and well. And apparently people were told to stay indoors in the case of a fire because the fire partitions would prevent the worst. Not the case...
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Rumors tonight:

Verified: VP Mike Pence $5000-a-plate fundraiser in Indianapolis is actually for his legal fund! :o

Verified: Trump's lawyer has hired his own lawyer. Smile

Verified: Brad Parscale, Trump's digital expert, has been called by one of the Senate Committees to discuss just how the Russians got the idea for hacking the election. This may lead to charges for son-in-law Jared Kushner too because he was in charge of digital during the campaign. Stay tuned to this one!

Still a rumor until he's arrested: Desperate Steve Bannon tried to block some members of the White House staff - possibly female - from leaving the building today, which could be considered kidnapping or illegal imprisonment. Was probably concerned about them leaking to the press, but it must have been terrifying for them. These people should quit and lawyer up immediately anyway.

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There had better be some charges and some justice for Grenfell Tower: no building, properly built, goes up in flames like that. The death toll is going to be heart breaking.

Mueller's hired a team of expert prosecutors, including a specialist in mob investigation and money laundering. No wonder word was spread in the White House for everyone to "lawyer up."

That Trump's lawyer hired a lawyer is hilariously par for this corrupt course. His problem (well, ONE of them) is that he actually advised staffers not to hire attorneys: in his position, not something he is legally allowed to do.

Trump's Twitter meltdown is a prosecutor's dream, as he's removing all chance of invoking Executive Privilege: he's making everything a matter of public record.

Thinking about how we came to this appallingly sad state of affairs in the US.....It all has come to pass because an old, ignorant, fairly corrupt white businessman could not abide an educated, successful black man poking fun at him during the White House Correspondents' Dinner.

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Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. (King James Version, Matthew 25: 37-40)
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I have now heard that allegedly cladding was illegal and people were told to initially stay in their flats. How stupid is that?!? Those who stayed inside lost their lives! And the woman who threw her baby down did not make it out but her baby did as people caught it.

And Teresa May really looked bad when she finally visited the hospitals (AFTER Jeremy Corbyn!) she was not made welcome and then she announced a relief fund of £5,000,000. That is ridiculous! Apparently that figure has now gone up. I went to the area of Grenfell Tower a few days ago and left some canned food and drink. The BBC interviewed the local helpers. They are all volunteers and they have not seen anybody from the local council.

Some of the Conservative politicians are all right but Teresa May talked a lot of rubbish during her election campaign.
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I've also heard that the cladding was cheaper than what should've been used--and flammable. Somebody needs to be punished for that: that's unconscionable.

In a correctly built high-rise, staying in place is actually the proper procedure. The designs are supposed to compartmentalize fires; heavy-duty, fireproof doors protect residents in their flats. The problem with Grenfell Tower is that the fire shot straight up the outside of building, thanks to the shoddy cladding: whoever chose and installed that cladding insured that the fire would be super-intense and spread up the entire exterior of the building almost instantly, making it impossible to contain and so guaranteeing the deaths of the residents who thereby became trapped.

Someone made the decision to save some money and killed all those people.

What we call the beginning is often the end
And to make an end is to make a beginning.
The end is where we start from.
--T. S. Eliot, "Little Gidding"

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Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. (King James Version, Matthew 25: 37-40)
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And bear in mind that this tower was only refurbished last year! What did they do?!? The residents raised concerns about safety on numerous occasions!
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They saved money.

Whoever "they" may be--and I hope they are hunted down and charged with the deaths they caused. I hope the rising death toll haunts them.

An attack via vehicle on Muslims: *crickets* from the White House. He couldn't be more obvious, could he, about his bigotry?

Just to make it all even worse: a Muslim girl murdered in Virginia, but, somehow, it's a result of "road rage" and not a hate crime. Sure, Jan. Not to mention: what? It can't be BOTH?

And, suddenly, the death of Otto Warmbier is OBAMA'S FAULT THNX OBAMA!!! For God's sake. Oh--and, in related news, the GOP baseball practice shooting is, somehow, Ossoff's fault. For God's sake.

Warmbier's tragedy has been turned into a so-called president's side show.....Suddenly, the occupant (sometimes) of the White House thinks that North Korea is a "brutal regime." Perhaps that opinion was written by a different person from the one who expressed admiration for the NK dictator, calling him a "smart cookie" and saying "it would be an honor" to meet with him.

And, just because nothing is bad enough....the GOP (lack of) healthcare bill. McCain, in a moment of lucidity, allegedly snarked that maybe the Russians had hacked the details of the bill, which is still a mystery to everyone other than a group of old white men. Leaks, which are currently the only way of getting information, indicate that Medicaid will be eviscerated (note to old white men--exempt from all of this, of course: Medicaid isn't just for those very bad brown people; it also helps the elderly, for one.....); also on the table: employer insurance....Yep--those of us relatively comfortable with employer-provided health insurance may now be eligible for lifetime caps, too.

Have fun with cancer, folks! Big Grin

What we call the beginning is often the end
And to make an end is to make a beginning.
The end is where we start from.
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Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. (King James Version, Matthew 25: 37-40)
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"Suspected suicide bomber shot dead at Brussels central station"

http://www.xpats.com/suspected-suicide-b...al-station

Just to let you know that I'm fine - was at home and packing for a trip today when the breaking news came in via push message. But worried now about my trip today (will be offline until mid next week) - the three BXL main stations (north, central, south) are lined up like pearls on a string, i.e. if they block the central station in the middle (instead of just not stopping there) it might block traffic passing through as well. If nothing worse happens, of course.

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So the Russians have hacked into the databases of at least ten states. How are we ever going to trust election results again?

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/more-state-e...y-thought/

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